368 How Almost 30 Grew Organically and What Saturn Return Revealed
Lindsay Simcik
Host of Almost 30 Podcast
What happens when the life you thought you were building no longer feels like it fits? What if the path that once felt exciting now feels... heavy?
In this powerful episode, Lindsay Simcik, host of Almost 30 Podcast, joins Kelsey for a deeply honest and illuminating conversation about evolving through life’s biggest transitions.
From Saturn Returns to soul journaling to postpartum rediscovery, Lindsay opens up about her own journey of transformation. She shares what it was like to leave behind a version of herself that no longer aligned with who she was becoming and how motherhood became one of her greatest spiritual teachers.
Kelsey and Lindsay explore how in their late 20s and early 30s often demand a full-body, soul-level reckoning.
Together, they break down why this season of life can feel so intense, how to tell the difference between fear and intuition, and how to build a life that truly reflects you not the one handed to you by society, parents, or past versions of yourself.
Lindsay also shares the powerful inner tools she uses to stay grounded and connected like her soul journaling practice and energetic hygiene rituals and talks candidly about redefining success, slowing down in a hustle-driven culture, and learning to honor the natural seasons of life and creativity.
Whether you’re navigating the chaos of new motherhood, stepping away from something that used to define you, or simply trying to tune back into your inner voice, this episode will leave you feeling seen, soothed, and supported.
In this episode, we chat about:
What the Saturn Return actually is (and why it hits hard in your late 20s)
The neuroscience behind feeling more conscious, clear, and emotionally grounded around age 26
How to navigate moments when you realize your life isn’t aligned
The spiritual power of surrendering to change
Lindsay’s simple yet transformative practice of “Soul Journaling”
Why getting quiet (and off your phone) might be the most revolutionary act
How to read the messages behind your emotions instead of running from them
Timestamps
[06:22] The powerful moment Lindsay realized she needed to completely start over
[09:47] Why chasing “balance” was actually causing disconnection and resentment
[13:01] The unmistakable signs from the universe that pushed her to finally honor her own needs
[16:39] A deep dive into what a Saturn Return really means
[23:50] How she released old expectations and is courageously rebuilding her life in real time
[30:12] A comforting reminder that feeling like your life is “falling apart” is okay
[33:45] Embracing the magic and potential that comes with uncertainty
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kelsey [00:00:02]:
Lindsay, welcome to the Visionary Life Podcast. I'm so excited to sit down with you today, dig into all things podcasting and motherhood and how you establish boundaries in a busy season, and also the launch of a book, which I'm sure is something a lot of our listeners aspire to do. So, first off, welcome and thanks for being here today.
Lindsay [00:00:22]:
Oh, thank you for having me, Kelsey. I'm really. I'm really excited to dig in. I'm so impressed that you've had your show for as long as you have. I know what it takes to. To do a podcast for that long, and it's really. It's not easy. So congratulations.
Kelsey [00:00:37]:
Yeah, you know, thank you for that. And it is something I actually wanted to talk to you about, too, because you guys started your podcast way back in 2016, I believe it was, and I think I started listening that year. And I'm sure in the first few months, even the first few years, there wasn't, like, quick success. And so it really comes back to this notion of playing the long game in life. So first off, before we dig into that topic, can you rewind to 2016? You have the idea with your co host, Krista, to start a podcast. You start putting episodes out. Did you get immediate validation? Like, did you guys get the sponsors right away, the listeners right away, or did it kind of unfold slowly? What actually happened in those early months?
Lindsay [00:01:30]:
Yeah, let me bring you back. So Krista and I met very shortly before we started the podcast, so we were really becoming best friends as we were pouring into almost 30, which I think is pretty unique and maybe something that people don't. Don't assume. But we met during a time where, when we were really going through it, you know, I was just in this wake of a pretty bad breakup. I had completely blown up the relationship that I thought was going to be my forever relationship, my person. I thought I was going to be married by 27 and have kids by 29 and just keep it moving, and I blew it up, you know, and I can speak to that later. Just as far as, you know, my soul started to speak to me and I couldn't ignore it anymore. I also had moved across the country, picked up my life started anew completely.
Lindsay [00:02:25]:
I was dealing with credit card debt. I couldn't manage my money well, and I was also teaching soul cycle at the time and just really running my body into the ground. Krista, at the same time, was going through various health issues, and she was really desperate to find her purpose. And our friendship and our conversations were just this safe space, you know, it was a. It was so comforting to be with her and talk to her and really get to the meat of issues right away, rather than small talk. And she came to me one day because she was a fan of various podcasts, and she was like, do you think we could start a podcast based on what we're talking about? And I was like, what's a podcast? I, you know, I was a. I pursued acting at the time. Actor, performer, singer.
Lindsay [00:03:19]:
And, you know, I was like, wait, I. I kind of heard of this, but what exactly is it? And I, I said yes, basically right away. I'm always very, very down to do anything creatively, regardless of whether we have a plan to monetize it or make it a thing. I just love so dearly the creative process, you know, and so we started recording with my $15 recorder that I had lying in one of my, you know, kitchen drawers, and we went into our closets and. And just did it. And. And over the next six months, we were practicing. We were figuring out what our chemistry felt like, what our flow felt like.
Lindsay [00:04:02]:
We were definitely refining our voices slowly but surely. If you listen back, we. We sound like completely different people. But after six months of practice, we were like, we. We gotta just put this out, you know, like, no, no more waiting until it's perfect, because it's not. Let's just do this. It was September 2016. We put this out.
Lindsay [00:04:24]:
And, you know, I do know some shows that have had major pops and overnight successes and, you know, viral moments, but almost 30's story is one of just gradual organic growth. And I'm thankful for that. You know, I think that type of growth is sustainable and solid, and our community started to slowly gather round. You know, it was pretty cool, I think, based on just us sharing very, very, very. In a very real way, in a raw way, what was going on with us and people related. And so it was a combination of. I think that. That drew people to the show over time.
Lindsay [00:05:14]:
I think the early guests that we brought on, we were then exposed to their audiences, which definitely helped our growth. Like a Kelly the Leveque Danica bra. Oh, my gosh, we had so many. But I. I really remind podcasters, especially those just starting out, you know, I. I know it's hard not to think about the numbers and growing and becoming, quote, successful and making money, but we didn't make money until year two, truly, you know, and we couldn't. Well, we made a little bit of money in year one, but nothing to sustain Us. And by year two, we were making money consistently.
Lindsay [00:06:02]:
About two and a half years in, we could quit our full time jobs. And that was scary. But it takes time and it takes a lot of time. Consistency. And most podcasts don't, don't finish. You know, they, they quit after most podcasts. I think it's like 80, 90% of podcasts quit after 10 episodes. So, yeah, it's not for the fate of heart.
Lindsay [00:06:30]:
You have to have a lot of time and, and focus, but it was, it was slow. It was slow. We don't necessarily have like the formula to make you a overnight success.
Kelsey [00:06:43]:
And I so appreciate hearing that. And I know our listeners need that reminder too that like, yes, somebody could open up their playbook and say, this is what we did. But the truth is everybody's journey is different. What worked 10 years ago is different than what works today. What worked two months ago is different. And like, there's also this element, and I'm curious your thoughts on this, that your energy has to be in it. Like, if you're just like following the steps and like, oh, well, Lindsay started a podcast or Kelsey started a podcast and it seems to be going well for them. But if you do it, but you're kind of just like, I don't know, like not feeling that passion and that curiosity and that excitement to sit down with guests or sit down for a solo episode and be like, what's going to come up? It's not going to be perfect.
Kelsey [00:07:34]:
And so your energy certainly impacts the growth and even the willingness to like, show up and be like, we have a podcast. Who wants to listen? You have to have that excitement and almost that like, little desire or that flame that's like, I see this being something more even though I don't know what that is. But clearly you guys were, you're feeling inspired enough to stay the course. And it could even be the opposite, right? Like, you might have got a year into it said, we're not making money and we're both not enjoying this. It feels like a chore. Yeah. What do you think about that?
Lindsay [00:08:12]:
Yeah, I'm glad you're bringing this up because one, one school of thought or modality that I love so much is human design. And it's, I would say it's in the family of like astrology and numerology, all those things that can kind of help you to understand your yourself better. If anyone is like, what's human design? So I'm a manifesting generator and it's incredibly important for me and for Krista too, she's a generator to be lit up by what we were doing, are doing at any given moment in order for it, us to really dedicate time, attention, our full talents. And we were, you know, we were lit up. It didn't, it doesn't mean that we didn't have moments of like, this is really hard, this is uncomfortable. Like, we definitely had those moments, but there was just always an undercurrent of this is really filling us up. This is. We're learning so much, we're growing so much.
Lindsay [00:09:11]:
We are feeling purposeful, you know, we're getting feedback from our audience that, wow, they've been really impacted by particular episodes. This feels great. So we just kept going, you know, and I think to have a partner in this made it even easier during those moments of challenge because we could lean on one another. I think solo entrepreneurs, which I know a lot of you out there listening are. It's not for the faint of heart, you know, you really have to cultivate your own community and support system. Thankfully, I had Krista. Yeah. Throughout this.
Lindsay [00:09:47]:
But yeah, it's, it's, it's something that we've never had a discussion about giving up, which is really cool.
Kelsey [00:10:01]:
Yeah. Such a potent reminder too that, like, if you are a solo entrepreneur, if you don't have a partnership in launching any project or launching any business, find those people who are equally inspired on a similar trajectory or. Or what I will say, because when I started my business eight years ago, I felt so lonely because I looked around and I'm like, all my friends are in the corporate world. They're doing their thing, they clock out at 5. And I was kind of like walking a complete different direction. I listened to so many podcasts, it was ridiculous because I could find people who were just like me talking about the subjects that I wanted and I would just like pop in my earbuds. And for me, that was what got me through the first few years until I really built up my entrepreneur community. So, yeah, just like major love to podcasts.
Kelsey [00:10:53]:
So I know that we're talking about, okay, growing a podcast, growing a brand is not the same for everyone. So I want to steer away from having like, prescriptive advice. But I feel like we would be remiss not to ask you what have been some of the most impactful strategies or impactful moments that made almost 30 pop?
Lindsay [00:11:21]:
Yeah. So we started when podcasts were still kind of on the come up. So people call us OGs. I guess you could call us OGs, especially in the female Host space for sure. And what I feel like set us apart from all of those people who had big podcasts at the time was the. The fact that we came out from behind the mic, we met our community in person almost from the get go. We would have events in our friend's backyard, we would have events at Soul Cycle, we would do day retreats. You know, we really wanted to meet the people who were listening.
Lindsay [00:12:06]:
We wanted to connect with them. We wanted to hear their stories. We wanted to understand what. What they needed, you know, in our conversations and what were. What we were creating. And so I think from an outsider's perspective, to see that happening was really interesting at the time. We went on tour at one point in 2018, and it's a 19. We toured the world.
Lindsay [00:12:32]:
We went to Sydney, we went to London, we went to Melbourne, we went to Canada, we went to various cities in the U.S. like, no one technically asked us to go on tour, but we just knew that meeting our people in person lit us up and we made it happen. And I think that worked as a really beautiful, genuine marketing tool, you know, to see a podcast on a big world tour, like, who are. Who are these girls? Let me listen to the show. What is the hype all about? So I definitely think that in particular set us apart and really helped our growth. I also think, you know, from a business perspective, once you go full time, I mean, the pressure is on. You're paying for your own payroll of. Of me and Krista.
Lindsay [00:13:22]:
But then also we had a team. We had a team of contractors at the time that were very consistent with us. And y. Yeah, it's. It's. It's scary. It's a lot of pressure. So we had to diversify how we were making money.
Lindsay [00:13:36]:
The main form of revenue for our show is our advertising on the actual show, and still is to this day. But we also just knew we had a lot more to give and a lot more that we wanted to create outside of what we recorded on the show. So we hosted retreats. We had this beautiful retreat in Malibu for a few days. It was just wonderful. People from all over the world came to stay with us and spend time with us. That was wonderful. I.
Lindsay [00:14:05]:
I mentioned the tour. We also created a membership during the pandemic because, you know, we could no longer see people in person. And so we wanted to be able to gather virtually. We wanted to give people resources and just a place that they could land as they were continuing to do, you know, their self development, exploration. Um, and then we also, you know, Chris and I are speakers and so we, we would do speaking engagements and various things. We created courses and programs. So again, I think for people from the outside to see that, to experience those things, it's a differentiator. You know, it just makes your brand an experience.
Lindsay [00:14:55]:
You know, you, you come into the ecosystem of almost 30 and it's really, really special. You know, you touch the community and it' so I think focusing on that, making almost 30 really 3D rather than just like something you listen to in your ears was I think definitely a huge part of our growth.
Kelsey [00:15:17]:
I love hearing about this because I feel like there was a time like you know, maybe about five years ago and then leading into the pandemic where we all just kind of forgot about in person connection and, and we started doing everything online and then with the rise of AI and everything, it's just like we can live on our computers and we're like, okay, do I have to post more on Facebook? Do I need to grow my email list? Do I need to run more Facebook ads? And it's like, wait, what if the answer is actually going back to real connections and prioritizing at least for part of your growth strategy, prioritizing the people who are right in front of you, listening, learning from you and like going out like you said, and like meeting them. Like what a novel concept to actually bring your community together. And it's almost so it's, it's coming back now I think. But it's almost so foreign to some people that yeah, they can't even like wrap their head around having an experiential in person part of their growth strategy because they want to do it all online. And I'll even say, you know, the reason why I found almost 30 was because you guys had these sub community Facebook groups. And I'm not sure how I ended up in it, but I ended up meeting a really great girlfriend who then we've done business together. We actually just went out for dinner together a few weeks ago in Toronto. And it's funny that we were literally recapping like how do we know each other again? Oh yeah, it was because of that almost 30 Toronto group.
Kelsey [00:16:52]:
And so you guys did such a good job of like, your strategy was global but you made sure that hey, we can't be in Toronto all the time, but why don't we bring all of our like minded listeners in Toronto together? And then you said you also did a tour stop there. So it's just so cool to be reminded of something so simple to build community that sometimes feels a bit more challenging in this digital era. And yeah, it's just such a genuine.
Lindsay [00:17:23]:
Approach, but I think people are craving it, you know, especially now that we're kind of out of, you know, 20, 20 times. I feel like people are really craving that in person connection. It feels so, so good, so genuine. And also because to your point, everything's digital. I'm tired of being on my computer. I'm tired of being on my phone. I want to, like, look into people's eyes. I want to be out in nature experiencing things with people.
Lindsay [00:17:55]:
You know, it's just I want to be in genuine, real conversation. Like, I don't want to be like, AI emailing back and forth, you know what I mean? So, yeah, I think it's, it's now coming back in full force and I think entrepreneurs need to lean into that. I know it's easy to do digital stuff and that's fine, but I actually don't know if people are, are really hungry for that right now.
Kelsey [00:18:22]:
I completely resonate with that. Yeah, I feel like that's a whole can of worms to crack into and, like, why people who are devoting so much energy to growth on a social media channel right now, they're feeling disenchanted. And I'm like, I think we obviously know what's going on here, but it's still unfolding and people are still unraveling. You know, what we're missing, which is that true connection. So. So in the almost 30 book, you guys, the first chapter is all about something called a Saturn return. Now, I feel like I'm, like, spiritually savvy in some ways, but I still don't quite understand what the Saturn return is, how it applies. I know it's all based on change and shifting for our listeners.
Kelsey [00:19:04]:
Can you guys explain why this concept is the through line of the book? And like, what is our Saturn return? Do we all experience it? Am I going through it right now? And why do I need to know about it?
Lindsay [00:19:17]:
Yeah, totally. When we found out that we were going through our Saturn return, we were so liberated and felt like, oh, my God, everything makes sense. So, all right, let me, let me talk to your listeners about the astrological aspect of this late 20s, early 30s portal. And you don't have to be into astrology or spirituality. Just stay with me for a moment. Every single person goes through their Saturn return, which is every 29 and a half years, about the planet Saturn comes back to the place it was in the sky when you were born. Why this is significant is because the planet Saturn is kind of like your cosmic dad. And he comes in and he is going to be very direct and very honest about the aspects of your life that are no longer aligned and what that could look like.
Lindsay [00:20:12]:
It's not literally going to be a conversation with the planet. This could look like aspects of your life falling apart. You might go through a breakup, you might get a divorce, you might move across the country, you might quit your job, you might lose your job, you might have a child. It doesn't have to be necessarily, quote, bad or hard, but it's going to. There are going to be aspects of your life that are just ripe and changing in a big, big way. And so you're asked during this time to get honest. You're asked during this time to commit to becoming who you are really meant to be. And I, I see this time as a, probably one of the most intense times of individuation.
Lindsay [00:20:59]:
You know, we go through individuation when we're a toddler a little bit and then as a te, and maybe even as like a young 20s adult. But like in your late 20s, this is like the existential individuation of like, wow, I actually am living a life that my parents wanted me to live. And it's not a life that I'm enjoying or am lit up by. What do I do now? You know, so it is a, it is a transition that everyone will go through. And I feel like if you understand that this is a very potent, purposeful time, then you will be more apt to lean into it and know that if you are committed to being honest, radically honest, to being trusting of yourself and trusting of the timing of your life, then you're going to come out the other side just in awe of the life that you can create, like beyond your wildest dreams, beyond what the mind can create. At the same time, I'll come another angle here into like more of a science angle. Neurologically Speaking, at around 26 or so, your prefrontal cortex is coming online. This is the part of the brain responsible for decision making and emotional regulation and long term planning.
Lindsay [00:22:24]:
And up until this time, the emotional brain has been running the show. And you know, if you think to your teens or early 20s, like, you know, you might think about some decisions you made that were very impulsive and that were a very emotionally driven. But around this time in your late 20s, the prefrontal cortex is really syncing up with every other aspect of the brain, namely the emotional part of the brain. And so you start to become more conscious, you start to become more thoughtful and responsive rather than reactive. And it's no wonder that you kind of come online and you're like, wow, I'm not living the life that I really want to be living or I'm not in the relationship that I truly desire. And so, you know, it is a, it is a process. It's not going to happen overnight. But you're really being called to commit to the self discovery, commit to the work, to know yourself more deeply, to connect to your soul more deeply, so that you can then be in just the, the most powerful collaboration of all time, which is between you and your soul, you and God, or whatever you want to call God, universe, source.
Lindsay [00:23:48]:
And it just makes life so much more fun. Life no longer is just you shouldering it, figuring it out, you know, having to like make it happen. It is really a collaboration and a deep trust in what is right now and what's to come.
Kelsey [00:24:05]:
So cool. And as you were talking about the shifts that happened around the age of 26, I was thinking, oh my gosh, that was for 10 years ago for me. And that's when I really decided that like the current track that I was on was not right. Kind of blew up my career. I moved in with my now husband. Like there was just a lot shifting and I, I felt like at 26, I really woke up to, I don't want to live unconsciously for the rest of my life and I am in charge. And I started to look at the world differently, thinking, hey, if I'm not happy about something, I'm not going to complain about it, I'm going to change it. And then so much continued to unfold over those next three years into my own Saturn Return.
Kelsey [00:24:53]:
And I think it's such a great reminder too that there are seasons of life where if you're feeling like you are changing, you are no longer the previous version of you. Whether it's in your young 20s, late 20s, maybe you're just becoming a mother and you're like, hey, what? I prioritized many years ago or before I became a mom, I don't want that anymore. And it's almost like permission, like hearing you talk about Saturn Return feels like permission to at any moment leave the former identity that you've been holding on to so tight behind and freely step into that next version of you. And if it feels aligned, just be so confident that you can walk into a new season. And that as human beings, I think change is so normal. But for some reason we resist it. So for somebody who's feeling that call to shift, whether they're in their late 20s and in their Saturn return, or maybe they're just in a different season, mid-30s, mid-40s, if they're feeling that resistance to change, but almost that energy of just like, oh, something's not right, do you have any practical tips of what they could do in this moment to just take that one step towards their next evolution?
Lindsay [00:26:13]:
Yes. And the Saturn return is just a time to get in right relationship with change because as you just mentioned, change is going to happen, you know, it's going to happen throughout our life and it's how we are in relationship with it that really determines the experience. So I think the first thing that, that is incredibly important, but also incredibly and annoyingly simple is to get quiet. And what does that look like? Getting quiet for me looks like unplugging, you know, getting off my phone as much as I'm on my phone, you know, not looking to other people's lives for inspiration, to be honest, not looking to the experts and the healers and the teachers for all the answers. It is getting quiet enough to be able to hear my own inner voice. Oftentimes, you know, nature really does this for me. I know we hear it, but it's true. Going out in nature, just being amongst the, the elements, maybe you listening have an element that really calls to you.
Lindsay [00:27:28]:
Maybe it's water, maybe it's earth, maybe it's fire. Is there a way in which you can engage with the elements? Take a swim in the ocean, build a fire, you know, in the, in your backyard or at a campground. Is there a way you can engage with the elements that just makes you feel really just supported and comforted? And it's there that I really tell people that, you know, you're not going to get hit over the head with like this big, you know, Morgan Freeman Voice of God it's like you're going to start to get feelings. Most likely you might hear a voice, but you will most likely start to experience different feelings. And our feelings are just as temporary as they can be. They do have messages for us. They point to things. So I, I don't recommend that people take the heightened emotion and make rash decisions, but I, I do think that emotions are pointing to some information that we can just consider.
Lindsay [00:28:37]:
And so, you know, you might be feeling like, yeah, actually the, this friendship that I've been in for so long, but have felt just like my light is so dim around this person and I don't Feel amazing when I leave conversations with her. And, you know, I don't feel incredibly supportive or like it's a reciprocal relationship. Like, I actually think it would be in my greatest and highest good that we either have a clearing conversation about this or that I let this person go. You know, it's, it's those types of things. And I would highly recommend in this process, keeping a record, writing it down. Maybe you leave yourself voice notes, but I do recommend a record because, you know, our minds are all over the place sometimes, and I will lose a thought so easily. And so to be able to look back a week later, a month later, a year later, I think it's a really beautiful practice of witnessing your own evolution and growth and also just getting information. Information.
Lindsay [00:29:42]:
You know, I, I think when we write things down, it comes out differently than the, the loop thoughts in our head. I'll. I'll end this, this with a. A practice that changed my life. It's called soul journaling. And we write about it in the book. Elisa Romeo taught me this. And she does a lot of work with the soul and, you know, helping people to connect with her, their souls.
Lindsay [00:30:10]:
But our soul is like the, the piece of divinity within us. You know, it's this part of us that knows this part of us that is just so loving and loyal and comes from a place of love, not fear. You know, they. The soul never pushes you. The soul guides the soul is patient. And I'll say it again, it's just really loving. But it might not always give you truth that you want to hear. So there's that.
Lindsay [00:30:43]:
But soul journaling is, is quite simple, but you have to kind of suspend any thoughts from the mind that make it feel silly or like it could. Could not be true. So grab a journal. You can drop into a meditative state. I love to put on binaural beats or meditation music that really helps me to drop in. I'll sit in breath and just noticing for five to ten minutes, and then I'll call forward my soul. And if you've never called yourself forward, you can just be like, hi, soul. Or maybe he or she has a name that you want to call them.
Lindsay [00:31:21]:
And that's perfect. I would love to communicate with you right now. I know it's been a while, but I would love to just communicate with you through, through writing. And then you'll call forward questions that you have and you'll write these questions down on a piece of paper in your journal and ask your soul. I would love your insight. I would love Your clarity. I would love your guidance here. After you write down the question and then you put pen to paper and you just start writing and you will be blown away by what you see and what you feel and what you hear.
Lindsay [00:31:59]:
There's going to be a wisdom that comes from within you that will just knock you off your feet. It's. It's really beautiful. It might even bring you to tears. And this is a part of you. And soldier journaling, yes, it's cool and it's gotten me closer to my soul, but it's also just giving me so much more confidence walking around in the world. Wow, this is me. I have this within me.
Lindsay [00:32:20]:
I don't have to seek outside of myself. So, you know, in the book, you can, you could just learn more deeply how to implement this practice. But it's changed, changed my life.
Kelsey [00:32:33]:
And for some reason it's so difficult for those of us who are busy minds and entrepreneurs to like, carve out that time. But as you're talking about it, I'm like, this is exactly what I need, right? In the busyness of life, you know, we jump from getting the baby up in the morning to working a full day and then you want to spend time with the kids and then you have to do laundry and cook. And sometimes I forget to carve out the time to just let my mind wander and to, like you say, ask my soul questions like which part of which parts do I need to let go of? And what's one, you know, dream that I have that I haven't given myself time to explore? And it's just like a very simple reminder that could completely change the way that you approach life and time and your schedule.
Lindsay [00:33:22]:
And I think with entrepreneurs, I just want to say, you know, we're, as entrepreneurs, we're so quick to hire the coach, which I think is amazing. We've hired many coaches over the years that have changed the game for us therapists. We call our other entrepreneur friends and ask them for advice, but we are not looking within and asking that part of ourselves. Yeah, that is so wise. So carve out the same type of time you would for a coach, for a therapist and connect with your soul, say on a weekly basis, maybe on a bi weekly basis. But it is so profound. And you will, I think it will be a part of just how you make decisions and how you move as an entrepreneur. And I think that is, that's where we're going.
Lindsay [00:34:11]:
I hope.
Kelsey [00:34:14]:
That recommendation of carve out as much time as you do to listen to others and the personal development that we have in our ears and on our laptops and that it's like, if we could carve out equally as much time, just go on the walk, do your soul journaling. Because I think there, there has to be that balance of, like, everything coming in, but also sitting with what's coming in and saying what's for me. And then, you know, what, what do I want to think about and talk about? So. Such a good tip. So before we transition into talking a little bit about the book, I, I want to crack open the topic of motherhood. I know this is something you are passionate about. We have, you and I, first babies, who I think are just a few months apart. So I've been really loving.
Kelsey [00:34:58]:
He's a year and a half now.
Lindsay [00:35:00]:
Oh, my gosh.
Kelsey [00:35:01]:
Yeah. And so I remember when you launched New mom on the Block, and I kind of watched your transition from being pregnant and to having a baby. I very much related with a lot of what you share. And so I'd love to just ask you a question around how you approach work and entrepreneurship differently now that you have this other, you know, priority, like, the priority. So do you feel like you had a big shift on, like, previous to having a family, you devoted a lot more time to work and like, how have you had to make little shifts to how you approach business work, your schedule, the demands, the asks of you now that you want to be the most present, engaged, you know, regulated mama? What have been some of those shifts?
Lindsay [00:35:52]:
Yeah, you know, I haven't, I haven't figured it out, all out yet, and I don't know if I ever will. I think our children are always changing, and so we have to be very agile with how, you know, we show up as parents. But what I will say is, you know, first of all, motherhood changed me completely. I, I like to say that it made me feel more like myself than I've ever felt. And I, and this is not everyone's experience, but I, I, I do feel so at home as a mom, so comfortable as a mom. It's not easy. Holy moly. It is the hardest thing I've ever done in my life and is.
Lindsay [00:36:42]:
It's the most welcome challenge I've ever had. You know, I, I just feel how it's working on me and I feel how just deep and profound it is. And I'm so grateful I'm here as far as managing work life and entrepreneurship and having a brand and a podcast and growing another brand. Hey, I mean, I do my best. I think first and foremost, I'm more efficient now. You know, I want to prioritize my time with my son. I'm very blessed. We have support, you know, we have an incredible nanny who, you know, helps me tag team during the week, but I want to be there with my son a lot of the time.
Lindsay [00:37:32]:
That's why I said tag team, because, you know, I'm meeting her for soccer, I'm like, I'm with them all morning, you know, playing with him, helping them get ready. Like, I just want to be there. And so when I do carve out time for work and this season is very busy with the book, I just want to be as efficient as possible and productive as possible in as short amount of time as possible. So whereas before I was dilly dallying and getting distracted, I don't let that happen as much anymore because I know I have a limited time period to get it done. 2. I'm pretty, I'm pretty savage with boundaries now. So, you know, I don't work past a certain time, I don't take calls on certain days, and I don't make exceptions. And, you know, that wasn't always me.
Lindsay [00:38:33]:
I, I, I think as an entrepreneur you do have to go above and beyond and kind of push your limits and to get to where you want to be. But at this point in my life, I'm like, no, I need to protect that time. I need to protect that space with my family. And I'm just not gonna budge on it. I think it's been very integral for me to lean on people. So leaning on my husband, leaning on my family, our family, leaning on our nanny and taking help. It's. I, I, I sometimes grapple with that like, martyr complex of like, no, I want to do it all, I can do it all.
Lindsay [00:39:12]:
I do it the best. That type of vibe. And I'm just not a great, I'm not the best mom. I can be when I'm doing everything all the time. I'm just not. I wish I was, but I'm not. I can grow impatient and resentful and I just don't like that. So I've learned how to ask for help, which I think is very, very important if you're going to be running a business.
Lindsay [00:39:42]:
But like I said, Kelsey, I'm still in process. You know, I, some days I want to like blow everything up and just be a mom.
Kelsey [00:39:49]:
Yep.
Lindsay [00:39:49]:
You know, so I, maybe there will be a season of my life where I am a full time stay at home mom and that will be beautiful. But I do think there will always be a part of me that wants to create. So, you know, I might not always be making money from what I create, but that will be a very important part of. Of my motherhood is being a creative and carving out time for that. So I'm dedicated to that. I just, I. I'm kind of grappling with, like, do I always need to be pushing? And I am a very. In a very privileged position to say this because my husband is the breadwinner, but, you know, will I always be pushing to, like, make the next, you know, dollar and like, push the next product or what or brand or whatever? I don't know if I will always be doing that.
Kelsey [00:40:49]:
And how cool that you're having those thoughts of, like, you know, there might be another evolution of Lindsay, and there might be a time when the creative. This is baking and gardening versus monetizing a podcast. And, you know, everything you said is so resonant to me. And I think the most important thing that we can do as mama entrepreneurs is always just be asking ourselves, like, is this the right dance for me in this season? Because, you know, we love our work, but there's also this yearning to just slow down and, like, reroute. So, yeah, for me, it's like a daily question of, like, how much is too much and am I trying to chase something that's really not as important in this season of life? So totally. Yeah. The big questions.
Lindsay [00:41:36]:
Huge.
Kelsey [00:41:37]:
Yeah. So this has been such a diverse conversation. I've loved all the topics. What's cool is that if a listener has enjoyed everything you and I have explored over the last 40 minutes or so, they are going to love your book. Of course, they're already listening to your podcast, but if not, they can go tune into the archives. But can you just give us, like, a quick synopsis, synopsis of the book where we can find it and anything else we need to know to support you?
Lindsay [00:42:06]:
Absolutely, yeah. Thank you so much for that. Our book, Almost 30 A Definitive Guide to a life you love for the next decade and beyond is out June 3rd. Everywhere books are sold online and in person. This is really the guide that Krista and I wish we had during our late 20s. And honestly, a guide that we're happy to have as we just continue living life because change happens, transformation happens, transition periods happen. And so, you know, I think we need to support ourselves through it and get in right relationship with change. So, you know, this is a compilation of our own personal stories of our own deep, deep learnings over the years.
Lindsay [00:42:52]:
There's a lot of wisdom from past podcast guests. There's a lot of science and research in this book to ground us in, in what we're talking about. And I think you'll laugh and feel like, you know, your best friends or your big sisters of sorts are. Are really holding your hand through this. So, you know, my hope is that this book reaches everyone, that it needs to reach around the world, and that people will find, feel just comforted and. And build a. An unshakable confidence in trusting their life and trusting themselves during change.
Kelsey [00:43:33]:
So cool. Yeah, I mean, I'm in my mid-30s now, but I still think, like, this is the book that not only did I need in my late 20s, but also just going to guide me through being so comfortable with change and those things that I can do to support myself in every season as life continues to unfold. So we will link everything in the show notes so that people can go pre order their copy or order it if it's out already. When you're listening to this, we'll also link your Instagram and you create such wonderful content, especially for the mamas out there. There's lots of resonant Instagram reels. So, Lindsay, thank you so much for being on the show. And we wish you all the success with this book launch. You guys have poured your heart and soul into it.
Kelsey [00:44:17]:
So. So can't wait to get my hard copy. And thank you so much for being here today.
Lindsay [00:44:22]:
Thank you, Kelsey. This was so fun. I appreciate you and just, you know, hugging you and honoring you as a. As a new mom and doing all that you do. I know how difficult it can be and how rewarding it can be and how you can hold so many things at once. So I feel you. I'm here with you.
Kelsey [00:44:43]:
Thanks, Lindsay. And then as a final side note, I just have to laugh because I actually video messaged you four years ago, inviting you on the podcast. And then I think it was your assistant perhaps, that saw the message just a month ago and was like, we're ready now. And I was like, you always got to be planting those seeds. You never know when they're gonna flourish. It could have been four years ago.
Lindsay [00:45:04]:
It's so true. The timing is always. The timing is always right. And sorry about that. It's always the right timing.
Kelsey [00:45:14]:
Yeah. I just had a chuckle and I was like, heck, yeah. Like, I'm proud of four year ago, Kelsey, for sending video messages to Dream.
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