342 Life Update! My take on Digital Courses, 5 traits of happy women & asking for a sign
Exploring Digital Courses, Traits of Happy Women, and a Heartfelt Sign from Beyond
This solo episode we are going ALL over the place.
Welcome back to another solo show. We're going ALL over the place in this one, because why not!
In this episode, I discuss:
My take on Digital Courses and why they're not selling as well as they did 5 years ago
The 5 traits of happy women article that I read (tune in to find out if you embody any of these 5 traits... or ALL of them!)
The crazy story of asking for a sign from my mama (who is passed away) and then getting it 3 days later at my Thanksgiving Dinner
Episode Time Stamps:
[00:00] Embrace simplicity and ease in this season of my life as a mother who also runs a business
[09:47] My vision of staying open to unexpected signs from my deceased mama
[11:49] The sign appeared! This was a cool story.
[14:56] The power of being open to serendipity and unexpected magic; it changes everything.
[20:07] Quick recap of the workshop I delivered at The Practice Better Summit in September (what was the ROI, how did I prepare, etc)
[22:01] The REAL metrics we should be measuring with all our business outputs
[27:43] The 5 traits of the happiest women! I loved reading this article
[31:16] The truth about digital courses right now - are they REALLY the best way to grow your business?
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Hey, visionaries.
Welcome back to the show. I am so excited to sit down with you today. Hot off the back of canadian Thanksgiving weekend. And so I thought I would just open this episode up and say thank you. And I am so grateful for this community. You guys. Allow me to have a space where I come and I sit, and instead of having a private diary or a journaling practice that I sit down and do, I instead turn on this microphone.And in this season of life, I'm just sharing what's on my mind and on my heart in hopes that it resonates with all of you who are part of the community. And sometimes we talk about marketing, which is my jam. I love dissecting marketing strategies, coming up with growth marketing campaigns for all of you small business owners, and really helping you dial in what your strategies are and how we are actually tracking the metrics behind every single thing that we are putting our time and energy into. Because, hey, if we don't have to do it, if we don't have to be on instagram because it's not the main driver of clients and it's not helping you grow your brand, then maybe that time is better spent hanging out with your little kiddo at the park or learning to bake sourdough pizza dough. Side note, I just whipped up a batch of sourdough pizza dough. I feel like I'm at the point in my sourdough journey where I can just keep the starter alive without even thinking about it. It's kind of equivalent to feeding my dog or packing my husband's lunch for work. And then I can just, like, whip up one of my favorite recipes.
So it's kind of cool to come to that point a couple years into the journey and say, oh my gosh, this feels light and easy right now. And on that note, this episode is all about leaning into ease, I think, and I know that as business owners, many of you are women, many of you are mamas, many of you are multi passionates. We have a tendency to make things challenging. We try to complicate the back end of our businesses. We overthink what it is to cook a meal or to prepare healthy food when sometimes we just need it to be quinoa and tofu and literally keep it to a four minute meal. Sometimes we overthink what we need to have in our home to make it feel pulled together, when in reality, we need less. Like, I just feel as though life has come to this really crazy point lately where there's so much stimulation, there's so much coming at us in terms of who we're supposed to be and the path we're supposed to follow, and the type of woman or man or family we have to aspire to be that we almost make life more challenging. And when we peel all the layers back and ask ourself what matters, like what is important, what is my priority or my priorities in this moment, oftentimes the answers will come to us.
And you know what? Sometimes they don't immediately come to us because we need to get quiet. And what's interesting is this was actually a topic of our mastermind today. So, as you all know, I co facilitate the best mastermind for female canadian entrepreneurs. So if you're an online business owner, you're scaling from zero to ten k months or 1010 to 50k months. We have the coolest group of health coaches. We have financial professionals, we have real estate agents, we have clinic owners. We have people who are content creators and freelancers. We have marketers.
We have consultants. And in our group today, we meet every single Wednesday. We actually did something we call deep dives. These are our favorite sessions. And this is where each member of the group gets to open up about what's going on. And one of our members came on and just said, you know, I just feel like I'm dropping the ball in all areas and I feel guilty when I'm working. I feel sad that I'm not with my kid when they're at daycare and I'm maybe not being as productive. I feel like I should be making more money for the household if the kid's going to be in daycare.
I'm back to school and I don't know, like, what the path is. Do I need to build the business and be in school or just be a student? And as this member, I won't share her name. As this member was sharing it, I just kept thinking, like. Like, I think this is something we all deal with. It's like when we are doing one thing, we're constantly wondering, is this the best spend of my time? Is this where I'm most needed right now? Am I doing enough? Which is so relatable and also just so crazy. Because I feel like in 2024, as working women, we are doing a lot. Entrepreneurs even more like, we are constantly in this juggle where we are trying to manage what the best spend of our time is and how much is too much time to spend away. But also we have this burning desire and there's a lot on our plate, so we'll first pause there and just say that if you are somebody who is wearing many hats in whatever way, shape or form that is, congratulations.
Like, the fact that you are able to pull it off and manage each day with a smile like that just deserves to be celebrated in its own. Because it's not normal to have two working parents, kids in sports, to have tons of different obligations that we've committed to and said yes to, and to be expected to keep the family healthy and organized and on a schedule and keep a clean house and I could go on. So anyways, I thought I would share that just to kind of give you an inside scoop into what some of the conversations inside of wave look like. And, you know, it's not always an easy ride, per se, but some of the really great masterminding that we do is really bringing things back to why did you start this business? What is at the center of your values system in creating this? And what would it look like in this season of life, in this season of your business, if it were to feel lighter and to feel easier? And can you lean more into that versus piling more weight on your shoulders? And I think sometimes we just need to be reminded that there is a path that's going to have the least resistance and our brains often want to take us the opposite way. Which is like, if I want to start an email list, I've got to do x, Y and Z, and it has to be fancy. It's like, no, no, no, no. Can I be. I heard this on a podcast yesterday.
How can I be a two step girl if I can't do this in two steps? I'm not doing it right. Like, we always have to bring it back to the most basic form. And I think I am taking that concept. If it's not a two step thing, if I can't execute something or learn something or take something to completion in two easy steps, and maybe you have to make those big steps. But anyways, then in this season of life, maybe you don't have time for it. All right, so in this episode, I'm going to go all over the place. I just have some random updates that I wanted to share and just to kind of bring us all together around what's going on. And of course, as always, when things resonate, I am just more excited to hear from you than ever.
If you listen to the solo show and if you send me a DM on Instagram with whatever lands with you the most. Okay, let's get into it. So I want to tell you first, a crazy story. So I have many friends who are what I would define as more spiritual than me and more, let's say, connected with the universe and with a higher power. And I am certainly someone who is open to that. I fell deeply in love with the Deepak Chopra meditations, the abundance meditations a few years ago. I read spiritual books. I dissected the power of now.
Bye. Eckhart Tolle. I've always been kind of like a super soul, girly, and absolutely love personal development, especially as it relates to spirituality. But I am like a junior in the journey, I would say. And I was chatting with a friend who gets a very clear sign whenever her deceased mother is around. And as many of you know, my mom passed away unexpectedly three and a half years ago. And I have adopted the signal of every time I see a cardinal to think of her. And so I have absolutely loved that.
But that was something that someone told me to do. And it's been great, because every time I see a cardinal, I always say, hi. I always show Freddie, and I say, look, grandma's here. But again, it never felt like my signal. And so, last Tuesday or Wednesday, a few days before Thanksgiving, I was driving. I was going to meet a friend for a hike, and I was just listening to a song that really bubbled up emotion. I don't know about you guys, but whenever I slow down or go for a drive alone, which doesn't happen very often, I feel like that's when the emotions come to the surface. And so I finally was just like, you know, driving, doing my thing, listening to music, and I just had this voice kind of ping me.
That's like, you need to look for another sign. Like, that's not the cardinal's, not necessarily your only sign. And the message that kept hitting me was, be open to a sign in the coming days. And I thought, you know what? It's about time. Like, I hear all my friends, or not all my friends, but a few people talking about, hey, every time my mom's near me or my dad, who's passed away, I see a bumblebee or I see this or that. And I was thinking, well, that would be nice. I would like my own. And so I went about the next few days holding that idea, that vision, and wondering, you know, what would I see? Would I see, like, a unicorn or a leprechaun leaping across the road? And then the leprechaun would be somewhere else, and then it would follow me here, and then I would see a shirt with a leprechaun.
And, alas, a few days passed, and nothing happened. And then I went to my thanksgiving dinner, and my aunt was there, and I didn't have a chance to talk with her most of the night. And then after dinner. Dinner, I went into the main room, and she was sitting at the table, and there was an empty seat next to her. And so I sat down, and she said, you're the only one from your family I haven't told yet. And I was like, told what? And she said, okay, well, I'm gonna tell you a story. I'll keep it short and sweet, but I need to show you something. And I'm like, okay.
I had no idea where she was going. I thought she was actually gonna talk about my uncle, who's estranged from the family. And she tells me this story about my cousin, who's a teenager, and a new pair of shoes that he wanted and two gift cards to a store in the mall that he got from his friends for his birthday. And so they go to the mall, they find the shoes that they want, and then they pay on the gift cards, and one of the gift cards isn't going through, and they're like, what's going on? So she calls the store manager. He is not able to figure out. He says, I'll work on it, and then you'll come back. And so at a few days later, he calls my aunt back to the store, and he's like, okay, I need you to come back in. You can pick up the shoes.
We're going to honor the gift card, even though, like, we can't seem to figure out the barcode on it. And so they go through the whole process to get the shoes. For my cousin, this is kind of, like, abbreviated version. And they print out a receipt, and the receipt kind of shows all the transactions and the two gift cards being used and the balance owed for the remainder of the shoes for my cousin. And, you know, at the top of a receipt, and it says, like, name, date, the store location, the phone number, and the customer name. And the customer name is usually the name that's on the account, or the customer name is usually the credit card owner that's used. And what is so absolutely wild was that my mom's name was on this, and it said, customer name, Heather Rydell. And, of course, like, all of our logical brains are like, well, did my mom get him that gift card four years ago before she passed away? And she's like, no, this was a new gift card.
Okay, do you have my mom's credit card? No. Okay. Did my mom have an account there? And you were, you know, making a transaction under her name? No. Do you and my mom have the same last name? No. Cause my mom changed her name. Like, there's just no logical reason for this. And at a certain point, it really hit me, oh, she's here with us tonight. This is a sign that she's going to show up in very magical, random ways when we need her the most.
And why this felt like the perfect time to get a sign from my mom was because we walked into my aunt's, and I have a pretty large family. My mom had four other siblings, and then all of those siblings had kids, and now those kids have had kids, if that makes sense. So there's many generations, and when we arrived, I remember my cousins saying to me, we have to do a big family photo because everybody's here tonight. And what she was saying was that all the people who live out of province and who usually can't make it because they work in an industry where you don't get holidays off magically. And just with, you know, the divine universe that we live in, everyone was able to be there. So we thought, wow, we can get a family photo, and we have new family members. We've got a, um, two babies under one years old. So it was just really cool.
But to rewind as soon as my cousin said that, she said, yeah, like, we're going to take a family photo because everybody's here tonight. My immediate thought was, no, they're not. Like, not everybody's here because my mom's not here. And it was just so obvious that what she said just didn't make sense in my mind. And I carried that heavy weight with me around for the first few hours of the party of, like, well, she's not here. And then at the end of the night, my aunt sits me down, tells me this story, and her name is printed. My mom's name is printed on this receipt. Like, you can't mistake it.
And then I thought, no, she is here. And so that was the sign that I had been looking for. And I don't know how it unfolds from this point forward, but it just felt like a really cool reminder that when you're open to what the universe has to offer you, and when you go about life looking for magic and opportunities and just things that pique your interest or draw you in, you can become a luckier person. You can change the trajectory of your day by being open to the serendipitous moments and even just on. Let me tell a couple other stories. So on another level, I live at a house where we have a tiny front porch. And since we moved into this house four years ago, we have not purchased any, like outdoor furniture for the front porch specifically. And I started to hit this point where a few months ago I was like, oh, I really don't like the design of the front porch.
I want to change it. And I had this idea of what furniture I wanted on the porch. I wanted two wicker chairs that were good for outdoors with cushions on them, and then to have like a little decorous around that. So for fall decor, like a little pumpkin and some mums and maybe a little outdoor carpet. And I kept looking online, but I personally hate long line, hate online shopping and I like delayed gratification. So basically, if I want something, I will wait months and months and months before I actually buy it because I want to make sure that I really want it. And I'm in this season of life right now where I don't want clutter. So I'm constantly looking at everything in our house and I'm like, can I remove this? And I'm by no means a minimalist.
Like, we have a lot of work to do, but I don't want to bring stuff in. I don't want to buy junk. And unless I want something for months on end, I'm just not going to buy it. I'd rather spend money on experiences, on food, on just like travel, things that are not like objects that aren't going to bring joy and that instead cause stress, right? Because when you have too much clutter, that's how your brain feels. And so I would randomly open up the Facebook marketplace app and look for outdoor chairs or outdoor patio furniture. And a couple times, like, I saw a few things, but it was never the right fit. And I kept reminding myself, it should be easy, it will be easy. I'm not looking for the hard route to find these perfect patio chairs, which I realize sounds kind of dumb, like you could just go on Wayfair, buy what you want and it's over with.
But again, that didn't align with my values. I didn't want to. I didn't want to shop on Wayfair. Let's put it point blank. I just felt weird about it. So anyways, the other day I am, or I think it was on Friday, right before Thanksgiving, I am sitting on the porch hanging out with my son and I'm like, you know what? I'm going to look. Today I open Facebook marketplace I type in patio chairs and I see the exact chairs that I want and I'm like, oh, my gosh. And they are at a fraction of the cost.And I'm like, okay, I'm going to send a message to this girl. So I send her a message and I'm like, hey, are these still available? She says yes. I'm like, can I coordinate a pickup? She's like, yes. And I'm starting to think about the logistics. I'm like, okay, these will only. I think we'll only be able to fit one chair at a time because they're pretty big in our car and that's a 40 minutes drive each way. And logistically, like, I don't know that we have time to do this on Thanksgiving weekends. So I'm like, okay, well, I'm only going to buy these chairs if it's easy.
I'm going to hold that true because that's how I set out on this journey to decorate the front patio. And so I message her and I'm like, okay, let me know where these chairs are, and I'll figure out, like, when I can come. She messages me the exact location where my sister lives. And so I'm like, okay, this is promising. I could get these chairs in as early as today if my sister can just have them. And then I'm like, let me make this even easier. If I offer her ten more dollars, will she drop them off in the next hour? Because I'm about to see my sister for Thanksgiving dinner and I messaged the girl and she's like, yep, I will leave my house in ten minutes. And I'm like, okay.
Will she accept a random e transfer when she drops them off after she takes a photo on my sister's porch? I ask for that and she's like, yep, no problem. And so I'm just, like, leaning in and I'm like, I'm just in a phase of life where I don't want to force anything. And so I got the chairs, and I feel very excited about the fact that. But it was, like, the vision that I had and I waited months, but then when I got them, it was effortless. Like, just, like, I waved a magic wand. So I don't say all of these stories to say that, like, life is just so easy and nothing ever feels hard. I mean, the past few weeks have felt challenging in so many ways for me. I feel like I'm dropping the ball in many areas, even though I know where I want to keep the balls afloat.
But in a season of life where you feel like you have a lot on your plate, something has got to give. And I especially realized this when I was preparing for the practice better summit. And so I was speaking at a virtual summit back at the end of September. So about three weeks ago, and I told this story in a previous podcast, but just the sheer overwhelm of preparing three presentations in three days, one of which was to this really big audience, and I wanted to make sure it was great. And obviously I had to let a few things slide. I wasn't preparing meals for the fam, I, the house was a mess. I was waking up early and sacrificing sleep. But I knew that, you know, to get to a point where I could show up to this presentation and lean into ease and trust, I had to let something go and just make sure that I wasn't trying to do it all while I also had a competing priority.
And so got through that. And I had a lot of reflection after that presentation because I absolutely loved doing it. And a lot of people asked me like, whoa, did you grow your email list? Or did you get new clients? Or what was that level of exposure like? Because the company advertised that they had 10,000 attendees. I don't think they had that many. I would go so far as to say maybe they had 3000 signups, which is still really, really good. And as one of, um, maybe 18 speakers, that's a lot of exposure. And I had people message me say, like, loved your session, that was amazing. And so it really got me thinking, like, what is the return on investment of putting life on hold to prepare for a speaking gig if you get the opportunity? And is it worth it? And is this something that I want to keep pursuing, even though it takes a lot of bandwidth and energy to prepare and to execute and then to wind down afterwards.
And what I really came to was that there are so many different metrics that we can track, but there are a few that are most important. And so, number one, I think when we try to quantify the return on investment of a gig like this, one thing that we often leave out is like, what was the return on? What was the return on joy? What was the return on professional growth? What was the return on confidence that I gained from doing this? And so I know that most people, when they ask me like, was it worth it? Did it help you grow your business? They were all wondering what the return on investment or the financial return was. But for me, I measure so much of what I do in marketing on what was the return on my time? What was the return on my freedom like? Did I feel constricted? What was the return on joy? Did I have the best time ever creating the content and delivering it? And was I energized or did it completely detract my energy? And I just think this is something that is so vital if you're someone listening who is a business owner, to make sure that you're not so hung up on only the quantitative metrics and to instead really focus on is what I'm doing not only lucrative in the metrics that I'm seeing around website growth or financial growth, but also am I having a good time? Do I feel like I'm making progress? So I was just working with a client and we were talking about her marketing strategy. And a big pillar is networking. So of course we want to track things like how many different messages and DM's have you sent, how many phone calls or meetings were booked? How many clients did you sign from networking? But also we want to track, like, do you feel like you gained visibility through all of this networking? Do you feel like you fostered deeper relationships with your community on a scale of one to ten where you can't use the number seven because seven's a default even thinking about something like LinkedIn. So if you're going to go all in on LinkedIn, yes, I want to know, how many posts did you put up? How many impressions did they get? What was the reach? How many DM conversations were you in? How many clients were signed from LinkedIn? But also, like, let's not forget, did we have fun developing LinkedIn content? Did you feel like your connections were deepened in the DM's? Did you practice your thought leadership? You don't just get good at LinkedIn. Like, I know this is a hard truth, but same way that when people say, okay, I want to run Facebook ads and I'm like, great, show me the last 30 days what your top performing posts have been, and they'll say to me, oh, I haven't posted on Facebook for three years. And I'm like, well, we can't just run into paid ads then, especially if you're a small business with a tight budget.
Like, we don't want to just throw money into the wind when we don't even know what performs organically. And so I think it's so valuable in moments where you're assessing how you spend your time and where you're spending your energy. Don't just look, especially as business owners at the financial return. Also look at how did I grow as a person and did this contribute to my happiness? Bottom line, speaking of happiness, bottom line, I was listening to a really cool podcast the other day. I feel like every sentence I start is I listen to a cool podcast. But I heard the two co hosts talking about this article on theeverygirl.com, and it was five traits of all of the happiest women. And I was immediately intrigued because I'm like, well, what are these traits? And who doesn't love a good listicle? Like three ways to grow your email list or five reasons why your kids don't listen to you. So anyways, I was really intrigued with what are the five traits all of the happiest women have in common? And I thought I would just read these out to you and just maybe you can do like a personal scorecard.
But the first thing that they outlined was that the happiest women say no to things that don't bring them joyous. I feel like this is often something that we struggle with, especially in our twenties, and we just keep saying yes to things. It's like, hey, wanna come to this, you know, pool party that I host every month? And it's like, yeah, sure. When really what you meant was, no, I don't want to be there, and I don't have other plans, but I don't want to be there. And just giving that clean no and saving your best yeses for the things you actually want to do. So I thought that was a good one, saying no to things that don't bring them joy. I know my husband and I have gotten way better at this. When we get invited places, if it's not an immediate yes, we always ask, like, why are we rearranging our life for this? The second trait of all the happiest women are that they prioritize their health.
I thought this was such a good and, like, very obvious one. But health is our wealth. And often when we feel our healthiest, our strongest, our most vital, that contributes to our happiness. Because when we're strong in our body, strong in our mind, happy in our health and mind as well. The third thing, the third trait that they shared was that they don't take things personally. So I think that's like a great reminder of just staying in the present. Like, if somebody says a mean thing to you, don't ruminate on it and live in the past. Don't worry about, oh, my God, what happens next time I see them.You just can't take things personally because everyone has an opinion, but no, one's opinion matters of you besides you and maybe a close friend or a partner that you're with. The fourth trait was that they confront their problems, which I think is great, because when you think of someone who doesn't confront their problems, they're just bubbling with these conversations that need to be had. And if you're not willing to have the hard conversations, I know, it just. It overloads, right? Like, the cup runs over, and eventually you just break down. And the fifth thing, which I actually loved as well, is that they don't compete with anyone but themselves. This one I want to dissect a little bit, because I have worked with hundreds of clients, and I find that so many of the clients that come to me who are starting businesses in a certain vein, so maybe they are becoming a holistic health coach, for example, I'll look at who they're following on Instagram, and it's like a hundred other holistic health coaches, and they're like, well, this seems to be working for this person, and this person has already launched the course that I want. And this person put up a post that I wanted to talk about, and it's like, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa. You are not competing with them.
In fact, you don't even need to be keeping such close tabs on them, because why compare? Why dilute your own magic and the creative energy that you could have by being infiltrated with what everybody else has going on? And I think one of the best things that I did very early in my social media journey, if we're talking about this, one of not competing, is that I unfollowed almost everybody who was doing what I did, because I just. I didn't necessarily want to be inundated with a lot of content that would drown out my own ideas. And every single year, I do a social media detox. You can always dm me on Instagram if you want it. But where I basically, like, am ruthless, I cover up people's faces and I just unfollow, unfollow, unfollow, unfollow. And I try to cut my followers in half just because I know that nobody needs to have, like, you know, 700 connections on Instagram or to be inundated with so, so, so much content. Content. And as we round out this podcast, I thought I would just share something that I've been chatting a lot about with a couple of my business besties.
And this is the topic of digital courses. So I really want to use this as a way to really chat with you guys and maybe get information. So what the three of us were talking about was this prediction as to why digital course sales are going down. And of course there's a lot going on in the economy right now, but there are people who still have a ton of money. There is a lot of just general discomfort right now with people who are launching group programs or who have passive courses because they're not getting sales and they're kind of wondering, like, what the heck is going on? And so I thought I would just open this topic and would love for any of you to message me who have some insights, but I'll share a little bit of my take on it. If you are somebody who has a digital course, you created it and you're like, like, I really thought the sales would be better. I just want this to be a place that you can feel like, oh, okay, I'm not going crazy. So the first thing that I want to say is that there is definitely a massive supply versus demand.
So ten years ago, if you had a digital course, you were one of the only ones in your industry who probably had a product for sale online that somebody could access right away. Nowadays, it seems like everybody and their mother has a digital course, and without a large audience, it can be really hard to have your course stand out. If you're teaching on the topic of fertility, well, there are hundreds and thousands of other people across the entire world teaching courses on fertility. So there's definitely an increase of supply versus demand. And it's important to build the audience before you launch the course or to at least realize that, that if you don't have an audience of a thousand or more people, it can be really challenging because a lot of this information is free on AI, if you ask chats for advice, and even just in freebies on the Internet. The second thing that I want to say that my friend Krista mentioned is that it's hard to trust ourselves with digital courses these days. So buyers have such a sensitivity because it's likely that they've purchased digital courses in the past and have nothing completed them. Right? How many of you raise your hand, have purchased a course, had great intentions, and then the course collected dust.
So imagine if people do that once or twice. They probably have a big guard up around spending any more money. They don't want to be inundated with your automated email sequence. They're just very sensitive, unless they really want it in that moment. I would say the other thing is that it is hard to trust people outside of our communities. We are almost going back in time where business cards are back and in real life events are back. And I think I shared this on the last episode, but we sold out our Allora event with 25 tickets with no stress, essentially, which is really, really cool. And it just goes to show the demand for in person events is back in a time when people are like, I can't sell a digital offer worth shit, right? So I think it's hard to trust people on the Internet and we want more in real life stuff.
So a digital course might not be meeting the current need of your client. So it's like, can you rework that course and bring it into a different format? And I guess the final thing that I'll say is that I think people are feeling a bit disenchanted. They've been sold so much, and there's constantly a big influencer selling you a course on email growth or constantly someone trying to get you into a membership. And I think we're at this point of sensitivity where it's like, I'm not falling for the urgency and the scarcity tactics and the launches, and I don't want to be on your timeline. So it can be really challenging to push people to make a sale when they again, have their guard up. So would be so curious to hear from any of you who are currently very successful with your digital course sales. I will say, off the back end of my practice, better talk. I did get a few course sales, but unless I'm, like, actively launching or promoting, the passive sales are not that common.I find more so people are wanting one on one coaching and a level of service that goes way beyond a passive digital course. All right, this was a random show. I hope it resonated in any way, shape or form. I love you guys. I'll be back next week with another episode, and until then, have a visionary day.
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